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Monday, 11 July 2016

40K So that was Brocon 2016

An interesting week that seen me cop last Sunday after the list submission date that my list was illegal & leaving me with a lot more work to do then I would have want end with a very enjoyable return to the tournament scene.

Every since I'd started using the Vrak's renegade's allied with the IA 13 renegade's  something at the back of my mind was troubling me there was in there a feeling that it just wasn't right, now I'll be the first to admit that I'd never embraced this new way of building an army, sure I'd ran IG with SoB's but I didn't need to look to deep into the rules to know I could do that, so I decided that I'd look into thing's just to be sure & low & behold I fined that even though their both from different books they both come under the same faction & unless your running GW's chosen ones that's a no no.

Long story short I submitted a new list did what needed doing model wise & Saturday morning headed down to Limerick where Jan of ork fame was awaiting me with his meganob'z, I'd never played Jan before so had challenged for the first game, I knew Jan was a top player & that I'd need to play smart to try make a game of this, deployment turned out to be 12 inch's in down the table length not really the one I wanted.

I split my force's to each end hoping I could get him to do the same but he was far to smart for that & done what I'd have done myself & hit me down one flank oop's, well as long as I start getting the things he kills back it not the end of the world, but when you tempted the dice god's by having a blog named if it wasn't for one's &7 return to a place where legend has it you rolled 20 odd one's in a row the last time you where there well your just asking for it, two plasma squads dead roll to see if they come back on a 2+ & yes my friends you guessed it, if it wasn't for ones lol.

Anyway the lads fought on bravely even if it took thing's like 3 deep strikes to get one squad where I wanted it, first deep strike mishap & guess what I roll ? well just because it didn't work the first time doesn't mean it won't work the next time, deep strike mishap ( it's beginning to look as if deep striking is as dangerous a job in my army as having a plasmagun) I roll a 4 back into reserves, well just because it didn't work twice.


At his point Jan is looking at me as if I'm mad & laughing his head off, but it's third time lucky time to roast  some grots that'll put the grin on the other side of his face, anyway when the dust had settled it was what I believed was a 15vp's to 5vp's win to Jan which was in fact as my son inlaw told me when I got home the next day a 14vp's to 6vp's  win to Jan, which is good as it just goes to show you all how little interest I had in scores, I was hear for one reason only & that was to have fun & nothing else mattered.

Next up Caolan using Eoin's ETC cron list & this game has kill points involved in the mix, I just know my guys will be dying to come back in this game to make yet even more kill points (pun) as I face what is know as the lifestar, well if ever a game didn't go like you might think it would it was this one.

If Monty Python was to have ever done a game of 40K it might very well have gone like this one & while it might not have been one of the most nail biting games I'd ever played in it was with out a doubt one of the most fun, as I started to turn killing my plasmaguner's into a fine art, but then was to come what was to be the high light of the game as Caolan tell's me I shouldn't kill was is the last cron left in a squad as the whole squad will then come back.


Did I mention that I was only hear to have fun & that nothing else mattered ? so I go about trying to kill this cron that I want to die that Caolan wants to die but nobody seemed to have told the cron as he every save I put on him in my shooting phase like a boss, right so I'll just have to do it the old fashioned way, hand to hand with the beastmen the cron goes into overwatch rolls to six's then rolls to get to wounds on me which kills to beastmen & end's up with me failing the charge lol.


Anyway when the dust had settled on this one I'd won, don't ask me what score as I don't know & don't care, this game was so much fun that there was no loser just two winners, it getting late in the day now as there was a big delay at the start waiting for the terrain & the heat inside the hall is really uncomfortable but there's still one more game to play & it's everyone's love to hate army at the minute Elder, I just want it on record that I've always hated them lol.


So it Alan from Cork & it's a council  on bikes spiders & some more bikes, sadly we didn't get to play much of this game as time was up but had it keep going the way it had started I might well have been tabled, against one of the top armies with the dice gods stilling beating down on you there can be no escape from, so lets just say I was saved by the bell, I still lost but maybe by not as much as I would have, once again I don't know the score.



Sunday was to see me getting thrown to the dog's & I was facing off against what is called the dogstar or maybe it should be the wolfstar either way Bob had one hell of a lot of furry four leg's friends on the table, this is yet another ETC list.




Now the dice god's are still playing games on the plasma front but at least they seem to have forgiven me on the getting my guys back front which was just as well as Bob & friends real wanted to put the bite on me & me a dog lover, you'll never know dear reader how hard it was for me killing all of those dogs & this ended with Bob one wound away from been tabled & to be honest I'm glad that didn't happen as this was one of what is for me one of the great 40K battles & was out & out slaughter.




If you watch a game of throne's  just imagine  the battle scene in the second last show of the season just ended to picture what this game was like, if the blood god wasn't happy here then he will never be, this result I do know it was 11-9 for me two ETC lists played two ETC lists beaten & both in mission that had killpoints added maybe be I should be heading over there lmao.



Last game was to pitch me against the only lady of the tournament Elaine & while it was more wolf's there wasn't as many of the four legged kind, it seemed that by this point the legend of my ability  to roll one's had gone to the four corners of the hall & Elaine was looking forward to witnessing this first hand, but the dice gods can also be benevolent & had decided that enough was enough I had paid the price for been so bold as to build an army around a 2+ roll.


A start that see's you getting 5vp's for killing one model is maybe not something you will see me do to often but in my experience anything that can happen when rolling dice will & if you believe that & never force yourself to roll a dice you don't have to you'll be all the happier for it.


Another good game & the only one that was to see my warlord die all added up to what was for me a very enjoyable tournament Another win but once more don't ask me the score, but according  to my son inlaw Ralph with 3 wins & 2 lost's an over all finish of twelfth which if I'm not mistaking is the top half & that's not bad when you think I was using a list that I'd never use before, have what is most likely the only army in 40K tournament play that hasn't got one single reroll in it & that I was only playing for giggles.

Yes I tempted the dice gods with my army & they punished me but they also reward me, I seen megnob'z take wounds to lasgun's, iron priest's on thunder cav with a 2+5+ take wounds to lasguns & everything else that I pointed my lasgun's gun's at in the name of chaos & pulled the trigger, but the big reward was the fun I got from it all, as my good mate the Doc said if we want to remove all the dice out of a dice game why don't we just play chess ?

Well that was my Brocon I'll finish up with my thanks to all those who faced me across the table, Craig for all the hard work running the event & as always my thanks to you for dropping in & if you'd like to comment it would be welcome.




Wednesday, 6 July 2016

40K Using the models you want to.

I play a game against a player new to the club last week, he was using an all round Elder army, but as we where talking he said something to me that I believe we should do but something that I think a lot of us don't.


What he said was that he like to use that models that he wants to, now think about that for a moment & then ask yourself is that something you do ? sadly 40K at times can be such a mismatch that taking what model's you want to can very easily end up in a very one sided game.


There must be away to do it so that you get the models you want & an even game, now this might not be possible all of the time but I believe it can be done a lot of the time I'll explain, for the most part we play games of 40K against people we know so we all so have a good idea of what type of armies they like to use, now while I never believe you should tailor your list based on what your facing I think you can use that knowledge to get some units in that you like to use but know are a lets say a little below par (crap).


So for tonight game I've decided I'd run an different type of army to the one I've been using of late, this will do two things for me, one it will let me take some stuff I haven't used in a while & two it will be a nice change of pace more so with Brocon on this weekend which will see me back to what has been more or less my main army over the last while.


Now I don't know about you guys but I have to admit that while I might be using the army I want I couldn't say I've been using the the models I want & that's a shame as I bought them for a reason & that reason was because I liked the model, if you only buy models based on how bent they are then trying this might not be for you, but if like me the look of the model in the first thing that makes you buy it then I think you should be trying to get thm on the table top don't you ?


Well that's it for this post the picture's are from my game with Sean so my thanks to him for an enjoyable game & as always my thanks for dropping in & if you'd care to leave a comment it would be welcome.

Friday, 1 July 2016

40k Brocon looming

With Brocon just off a week away it was time to have a look at the army to see what still need to be done, I'm a firm believer in it's ok to use models your working on in games at home or in the club but when it comes to a tournament your army should be the finished item.
A right motley crew. 
Now to be honest I've been chipping away at the army all the time as most of you will know & I knew there wasn't much to finish off, but it best just to know what needs doing at this stage, I'd decided to put all apart from the original part of the army on to clear bases.

This army is such a mismatch at this stage that I think it feel more correct now then when I did it first, what I mean by that is that I think it was a bit to uniform for what it meant to be.

To try to make some sense of it all I decided that I used the older part of the army as the HQ's, elites, vets & weapons team, with what I think of as my loyal guard taking up the roll of the basic infantry.

With beastmen & mutants taking up the other rolls it all help to take away the guard army look.

As your able to challenge in the first round I know what I face in the first round & it Jan with meganobz, battle wagon's & some grots.


I'm finding the colour coding of the squads to be of a great help & I'll do something similar for the rest of the army so there will be no confusing about who's in what squad or leadership.

 As you can see purple squad needs to be finished & rebased, but this has since been done & I'm working on what other stuff needs doing which to be honest is not a lot so I'm not under to much pressure.

With it looking like 20+ 40K play while still down from the glory days it does look like 40K tournament is making a bit of a come back.

I would like to believe that tournament becoming FW friendly these days has something to do with the numbers starting to rise but that's more they likely wishful thinking on my behalf.

Either way if FW wasn't permitted I wouldn't be heading down as I've always been a big fan of FW & really can't understand why it took so long for people to except it.

The beastmen are not on clear bases as they where done at the start of this army & there bases match what I think of as the renegade guard, but as I do use the beastmen in other things I might at some point change them.

This army has been a long time in the making & is far from finished, but at least it's at a point where it at long last feels right & is the army that reminds me of the old eye of terror dex which if fitting with the wolfen now returned.

Zombie's & I don't even need to have Typhus, I know GW bless them tried to to had a little bit more of the over all chaos feel to the last CCSM but really imho they couldn't have got it much more wrong.

That's not to say that FW hit one out of the park with the updating of the Vrak's book compered to the IA's before they starting the HH this Vrak's book & IA 13 are a let down but half a loaf & all that.





Well that's it for this post as always my thanks for dropping in & if you care to leave a comment it will be welcomed.

Saturday, 18 June 2016

40K The real joy of Renegades

I think for me the real joy of the renegades is the modelling, what do mean Frank you ask ? Good question, if you look at the armies in 40K the stuff they use from guns to tanks in more or less set in stone.
A rhino was used to create Hydra

Apart from ork's who can have anything the other armies not so much so, unless you're doing stuff like Dave over at http://www.40kaddict.uk/ did for his nids, I mean Marines have rhino,s yep, Elder have Falcons and you can't really change that to much IMO.
A Mantiore using the missile's off a whirlwind. 

Now Renegades don't really suffer from that as they're not a real army so get away with a bit more, when I started this army some years back it was done from a modelling point of view.
A simple little carriage to mount the havoc launcher on  

While FW do some wonderful models there more the real army type & that's not really what I'm looking for, what I want from this army is the we make do with whatever we can get.
Ready for a paint j

So it was when I wanted to add so quad launchers and a heavy mortar I went for something a bit different, using havoc launchers on little home made carts or whatever it is you might call them.
One I've already painted

The heavy mortar is a multiple rocket pod with a part of a defiler &,some plastic tube a part from the chaos tanks kit that just sits on the bottom part of the havoc launcher.
The mortar  part I also use as a griffen 
 Maybe not everyone's cup of tea but to me they help create the feeling I'm looking for in the army and give me that something that I know I'm not going to look across the table & see looking back at me.
No mistaking who side this is for.
Most people think of Renegade's as a guard army just gone over to the other side, happily for me that is not the case at all & I try to show that the models, anyway that's it for this time as always my thanks for dropping in & if you'd care to comment it would be welcome.

Sunday, 12 June 2016

40K Brocon List

So after years I find myself heading back down to Brocon to play some 40K & needless to say the Renegades will becoming with me in the shape of the Vrak's  Renegade Unending Host detachment with some Allies from IA 13.


Even with the list not needing to be sent in for a couple of weeks yet I've decided to get it in early as there is still some work to be done on them & with the list set I now know what needs doing, the list in away more or less picked it's self & it is what I think of at the moment the core of my army. 


In the club we platy at 1850pts but Brocon is only 1500pts the extra 350pts in club games is what I more or less use for changing the list around from week to week, I think in a tournament 1500pts is better as it helps to get the games played in a more relaxed way so I not in anyway put out be it.


How well I or the list will perform I no idea tbh & the only requirement I have on this event is to have fun, enjoy it & let the dice gods decide my faith as this army has not 1 single reroll in it, what a chance from my power gaming days of when my army would be built around as many rerolls as I could get.


The only thing this army has going for it is that every thing init is cheap pts wise & that 6 of the units in it can return on a 2+ something I feel necessary in this kind of army in todays world to stop you been tabled in a couple of turns (I hope).


Below is the list, but before that I'd just like to thank Bryan for the game the few pictures in this post are from & as always my thanks to you for dropping in & if you'd care to leave a comment it would be well come.  


Renegade Command Squad 45pts 
master of the horde 20pts
Chaos Cocenant 10pts
Lascannon 20pts
Command net vox 5pts
Total 100pts 

Renegade Disciple Squad 35pts 
Lascannon 20pts
Plasma gun 15pts
Total 70pts

Renegade Disciple Squad 35pts 
Lascannon 20pts
Plasma gun 15pts
Total 70pts

Renegade Infantry Squad 30pts 
5 Renegades 15pts
champion 5pts
3 flamers 15pts
melta bombs 5pts
power weapon 15pts
militia traning 10pts 
Total 95pts 

Renegade Infantry Squad 30pts
5 Renegades 15pts    
champion 5pts
3 Grenade launchers 15pts
Autocannon 10pts
melta bombs 5pts
militia traning 10pts 
Total 90pts 

Renegade Infantry Squad 30pts
5 Renegades 15pts  
champion 5pts
3 Meltaguns 30pts
melta bombs 5pts
power weapon 15pts
militia traning 10pts 
Total 110pts

Renegade Infantry Squad 30pts
5 Renegades 15pts 
champion 5pts
3 Meltaguns 30pts
melta bombs 5pts
militia traning 10pts 
Total 95pts
 
Renegade Infantry Squad 30pts
5 Renegades 15pts  
champion 5pts
3 Plasmaguns 45pts
melta bombs 5pts
militia traning 10pts 
Total 110pts  

Renegade Infantry Squad 30pts
5 Renegades 15pts  
champion 5pts
3 plasmaguns 45pts
melta bombs 5pts
militia traning 10pts 
Total 110pts 

Renegade Mutant Rabble  30pts  
Total 30pts

Renegade Mutant Rabble 30pts 
Total 30pts

30 Plague Zombie Mob 90pts
Total 90pts

Renegade Support Squad 25pts  
3 Renegade Weapons Teams 30pts
4 Autocannons 40pts
2 Missile Launcher 30pts
Militia traning 10pts

Total 135pts

Total 1135pts

Allies

Renegade Command Squad 45pts 
Missile Launcher 15pts
Total 60pts

Renegade Disciple Squad 35pts 
Lascannon 20pts
Total 55pts

5 Renegade Infantry Veterans 35pts 
Deep strike 15pts
Plasmagun 15pts
Total 65pts

5 Renegade Infantry Veterans 35pts 
Deep strike 15pts
Plasmagun 15pts
Total 65pts

Renegade Field Artillery Battery 30pts
Heavy Mortar
3 Heavy Quad Launchers 90pts
Total 120 

Total 365pts

Total 1500pts